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| tigerxxxx65 | 29 Dec 2013, 12:48 PM Post #1 |
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Need some advice, Lola our new Lab ( 8 months old ) has a major problem with the vacuume cleaner, The washing machine, the electric whisk and now my sewing machine. When any of these items are switched on she wee's and tries to hide. I can't keep putting her out in the garden every time this happens. I don't know her previous history as she has been passed from pillar to post in her short life. So i am unsure of what has happened to make her so scared of anything that seems to make a ' Whirring ' Noise She is fine with the fan oven and the microwave but is scared to death of anything else.
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| Patlucky | 29 Dec 2013, 01:56 PM Post #2 |
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Is she is food orientated ? You could try someone switch something on in another room. At the same time feed her a treat, do not leave the item running for long. Each time she manages to eat and not wee loads of excited praise. So if hoover is on you would be in another room. Maybe with door half shut. Never speak to her to tell her its ok. Only speak when giving praise. It is hard when you do not know the dogs past. Good luck and it will not happen overnight. |
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| whitefang | 29 Dec 2013, 04:44 PM Post #3 |
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Try to put some music on to cover the noise. Switch on only for a few seconds at time and increase little by little. Do it after a walk when she is tired for example, give her a chew to keep her occupied maybe before starting. Also you could put some meat to cook so the odour will be in the house and could be soothing for her, making her more relaxed. Don't look at her, just ignore her. Stay far from her not to scare her. See how it goes. Every day a little bit, so she just gets used to it little by little. Just an idea. It is a question of trying different things and seeing what works. Good luck! |
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| tigerxxxx65 | 29 Dec 2013, 08:31 PM Post #4 |
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Cheers guys, Will try everything suggested and see what works, When i am using the electric whisk or the sewing machine i shut the kitchen door, She will stay out of the kitchen when the washer is on but i have had to put her in the garden when using the hoover, Trouble is i need to hoover every day ( Taz moulting ) so my carpets look like they have a fur coat on. But little paw steps and see how we go x |
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| Pamela | 29 Dec 2013, 09:44 PM Post #5 |
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Very sad to read this ...I dont know your dogs history , but when I fostered Irish dogs , many seemed frightened of household items , mainly because they lived outdoors and never seen or heard household furniture ... Its a time thing she should get use to most items ..leave the hoover lying around the house ... distract her with toys , food & chews ... Lucas still hates the hoover today , runs upstairs but just leave him ... Sheba another dog hated the lawn mower ...some things they will never get use to ... but hopefully she will stop wetting herself .... poor thing Best of luck |
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| tigerxxxx65 | 29 Dec 2013, 09:59 PM Post #6 |
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This is just it, Neither do we, Before we got her she had 2 homes in 48 hours, We don't even know if she is micro chipped or spayed all we got told is that she has had her injections, We are taking her to our vets after the new year to get her checked and if she isn't spayed or chipped we are getting her done we are also going to get her a booster injection to be on the safe side. Her crate gets here tomorrow, fingers crossed, So we will begin her crate training. We live in a ground floor flat so we have no stairs for to run up to and hide, But we shall keep going with her and not give on her xx |
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| smelly ellie | 29 Dec 2013, 10:29 PM Post #7 |
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when we rescued our 1st white shep she too was very timid. when the baby cried she would RUN if we had to change the baby's nappy the dog became really scared,any washing that was being folded she would RUN,hoover etc etc. what we done was to introduce the dog to the baby and encourage the dog to be part of the family unit as much as possible,to a point of making sure the only place she could run and hide was out the back door.slowly she built up the trust,and in the end i could actually throw towels etc over her without her getting into a state,its a slow process but you will get there,and if your lucky like we were you will end up having a top dog that repays you in love. |
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| Patlucky | 29 Dec 2013, 11:32 PM Post #8 |
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Just to add something . I have had three GSDs never had a problem with jumping However please be warned. My Labrador when young could clear a 4 ft fence. It is like they have 4 pogo sticks joined to their legs. I would hate you lose her though jumping when scared.
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| tigerxxxx65 | 30 Dec 2013, 09:43 AM Post #9 |
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Our back garden is enclosed, We have our upstairs neighbours garden that goes from the fence line to another garden to one of the houses that backs onto it( Confusing ) long story short. There is no escape route from my garden even if she can get over the fence she will just end up in neighbours garden |
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| Patlucky | 30 Dec 2013, 10:07 AM Post #10 |
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That made me smile. So that means she has her forever home then . I just remember when Rosie surprised us once by how she could jump.
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| tigerxxxx65 | 30 Dec 2013, 11:08 AM Post #11 |
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She has her forever home here, I have never turned a dog away no matter what problems it came with. Her crate has turned up and she is very unsure about it, yet Taz got in it and wouldn't get out So crate training for Lola begins, Small paw steps but she will get there, The funny thing is she will get in the crate we have for Taz on her own so i am hoping this is just something new to her and she will get used to it in time x
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| Jennysmum | 30 Dec 2013, 12:33 PM Post #12 |
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Whatever you do, do not ever switch those appliances on when she's in her crate. Lola needs to feel she can get away from those things and even if the door to her crate is open, she will feel threatened and very frightened. We all need to get away from things that scare us. Its natural for a puppy to chase the Hoover or bark at it and sometimes, owners think its funny to chase the pup with the Hoover because puppy barks and snaps at it. Innocently they carry in with this 'game', unaware that the pup is actually reacting like that because its scared if the sudden noise. Sometimes people 'Hoover the dog ', again without regard to how a puppy feels about having this noisy fur-pulling machine on their back! 'games' like this can Instill a lifelong fear of hoovers (particularly) and other related household appliances. I'd guess she's been chased/played with, with the Hoover before you got her. Her fear is a learned fear therefore. If I'm right, the best way to get her to live with these everyday things is NOT to draw attention to them, even in a kind way. Every time you say 'it's ok', or react to the noise yourself, even with food, you are drawing her attention to it. You want her to ignore it and make no association with the items at all. The best lessons dogs learn are the ones they teach themselves. (Nobody ever taught a dog to get in the work top or open the fridge, yet thousands of dogs can and do!) Your little girl will teach herself not to be afraid of these things if she's never made to confront them. (Think about your worst fears a d how you would feel if you were made to confront them every day. Nasty). In my house I have doors to the outside at either end. With Hoover fear (which is usually the worst) I get someone to Hoover (good move eh? ) and I strike up a game in another room. Once puppy is excited and playing with me, I run through the room being hoovered and out the other side, so that puppy chases me a d runs through that room unharmed by the Hoover. Puppy has taken the first step in teaching herself because the desire to carry on playing hard and chasing mummy overcomes the fear if the Hoover. Before she realizes it, she's shared the room with the monster at her own free will. Once SHE'S made that decision, she'll do it again and again. Don't ever praise her for being In the room with it. That would be drawing her attention to it. This type of reactive fear is classified under the same heading of 'gunshyness' and is very seldom curable by usual training methods. If you have no way of running in and out of the flat, get on your hands and knees and play chase with her including the room you have the Hoover going in. That will do, but always leave all doors in the house open so she can run or come to you at her OWN free will. The Hoover will be the cause of the problems with the other appliances because that's the one which would likely have been pushed towards her. I'm guessing that once she ignores that, the rest will just follow on. Whatever you do, don't make ANY association with that Hoover, good or bad. Ignore it. If you treat her, you will be rewarding her actions, ie she shows fear, you reward her. You mustn't do that. Remember, dogs work on cause and effect- they cannot reason. They associate the last thing they did with the next thing you do. In her mind, she shivers and shakes and reacts fearfully, the next thing you do is praise or reward her. See? So ignore it. Let it be in the background whilst you're on the floor like a loony which is great fun for a puppy Labrador! Let her teach herself. You have my number if you need me. Pat wots made her brain ache now. |
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| Patlucky | 30 Dec 2013, 12:56 PM Post #13 |
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Well done Pat. I could not have put that together as good. What you said about people and chasing a dog with hoover is so true. My Rosie is so relaxed I hoover around her she does not move. Now Tilly my daughters does tries to copy her. Tilly is almost there but moves a little. Please listen to Pat(Jennysmum) there is lots of help there. Good luck I am sure all will be ok .
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| tigerxxxx65 | 30 Dec 2013, 08:11 PM Post #14 |
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That is the one thing i would never do, I never did it with Taz, He is scared of somethings still but i don't put him a position where he feels scared. I have never used a crate for punishment or to get dogs to do something they don't want to. The crate is their bolt hole, their refuge a safe place to be that belongs to them. Thanks for all the advice though i will keep you informed of how we get on
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) and I strike up a game in another room. Once puppy is excited and playing with me, I run through the room being hoovered and out the other side, so that puppy chases me a d runs through that room unharmed by the Hoover. Puppy has taken the first step in teaching herself because the desire to carry on playing hard and chasing mummy overcomes the fear if the Hoover. Before she realizes it, she's shared the room with the monster at her own free will. Once SHE'S made that decision, she'll do it again and again. Don't ever praise her for being In the room with it. That would be drawing her attention to it.
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