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| Behaviour classes or trainers in Basingstoke urgent. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 21 Sep 2013, 12:32 PM (563 Views) | |
| emma30 | 21 Sep 2013, 12:32 PM Post #1 |
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Cassie and Keeleys Mum
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Hi, a friend of mine is having a horrendous time with her male Shepherd. Aggression, barking, destruction and general bad behaviour. Are there any specialist trainers in the Basingstoke area I can put her in touch with. She is at breaking point and in tears as I write this. |
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| pangolin | 21 Sep 2013, 12:40 PM Post #2 |
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Try http://www.apdt.co.uk or http://www.apbc.org.uk With aggression issues, I'd say err for a behaviourist over a trainer - or a trainer who has interest in behavioural cases and perhap a bit more experience/knowledge. I'd also stress the importance of the principles/ethics of the APDT and APBC - to use fair, modern methods without aversions or physical punishment. An aggression dog is often a fearful dog, and using methods that worsen or punish fearful behaviour can make things worse. Edited by pangolin, 21 Sep 2013, 12:40 PM.
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| emma30 | 21 Sep 2013, 01:20 PM Post #3 |
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Cassie and Keeleys Mum
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I've passed the details on. Also he has a huge hatred for the Hoover and when she is cleaning. Apart from never cleaning again ... Any suggestions how to stop him from destroying yet another Hoover . She does have a crate. He will be 2 in February. |
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| whitefang | 21 Sep 2013, 01:54 PM Post #4 |
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There is Tanith Wheeler. I went to one of her bark classes in Basingstoke years ago, it was brilliant. http://www.phoenixdogtraining.co.uk/5.html |
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| whitefang | 21 Sep 2013, 02:06 PM Post #5 |
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just remembered I fostered a dog who had a hatred of hoover and broom...anything cleaning the floor. He took away the broom from me!!! It surprised me the first time so I let him have it - no other choice but next time I was ready. I took my long dressage whip and in one hand I cleaned the floor with the broom around him and with the other hand I was taping on the floor around the broom to create a secured circle. So basically claiming ownership of the broom and showing the dog he had to keep some distance around it. After a few training sessions like that, the dog lost interests in the broom and understood he could not take it away from me. In case it can be of help maybe you can try with your hoover in one hand and holding the broom in the other hand to protect it or even holding top of your bin to keep him away just for the dog to get the message. Maybe also you can try water spray. Hope it helps. Courage! |
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| emma30 | 21 Sep 2013, 02:18 PM Post #6 |
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Cassie and Keeleys Mum
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I think she has contacted Tan as she lives near us but as if yet Tan hasn't got back to her. I've told her to try again. |
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| Shadow & Chay | 21 Sep 2013, 02:25 PM Post #7 |
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GSD Puppy
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Not sure how far you're willing to travel but can recommend Peter Branch of Newbury Lodge www.newburylodgekennels.co.uk He holds all types of training classes but has exceptional knowledge & experience with GSD. |
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| pangolin | 21 Sep 2013, 03:22 PM Post #8 |
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Please don't use methods like a spray bottle. The thing with dog training, if you stop and think about why the dog is behaving in this way, it helps make sense of the situation and find the best solution. A dog that reacts so extremely to a hoover probably has an extreme cause - in most cases, I would say the cause would be fear-based. A static hoover turned off isn't all that scary, but once it's turned on and being dragged around, it makes a scary loud sound, it blasts out hot air, it moves around somewhat irrationally as it stops and starts and goes around arounds, bumps into furniture, etc. Some dogs may choose to run away from the scary item, but others will take the 'fight' option of 'fight or flight', especially if feeling cornered. This is often what happens with dog-reactivity, dogs appear aggressive as they are the ones making all the noise, when it is simply them acting scary to try to scare off the dog they're terrified of. Rather than punish this fear (which only goes to reinforce that the scary item is even more cause for concern), you are better to change the dog's emotional response. Make the hoover less scary, make it rewarding for him to not react to the hoover. Kikopup does some great training videos and has a series on barking that addresses barking at strange sounds (in this case, it's a washing machine rather than a hoover) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_l9C1yT1g And one on hoovers by Pam's Dog Academy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNAv5aETho |
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| emma30 | 21 Sep 2013, 10:56 PM Post #9 |
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Cassie and Keeleys Mum
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Have passed all links to my friend. Thank you so much for the responses. Regarding the Hoover, it's not just when being used- the other day it hadn't been on and he just attacked it and totally destroyed it. The only person who was home was her 14yr old daughter who couldn't get him to leave it. She was so scared she hid in the toilet crying and called her nan to come and help. Also after the broom or Hoover have been used not only will he try to attack it but he will go for whoever was using it. He has bitten nan several times after she has hoovered. He is exercised daily for at least 2x 1 hour long walks and ball play. Edited by emma30, 21 Sep 2013, 10:56 PM.
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| Pamela | 21 Sep 2013, 11:34 PM Post #10 |
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Hi How long has she had the dog ? Has this just started ? {keep the hoover locked away for now ) Think she needs someone to assess the dog in the home environment .... |
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| pangolin | 22 Sep 2013, 01:48 AM Post #11 |
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Forgot to say before, but I would also recommend a thorough vet check. Not just a consultation but a thorough physical examination, possibly x-rays to rule out behaviour linked to pain, and also a full blood panel including thyroid levels (not just TSH, but as many other levels possible too). Kiki started to become more reactive to things - initially dogs, but then things like pushchairs, etc. and she wasn't long after that diagnosed with hypothyroidism, with the anxiety being one of her main symptoms. Her reactivity decreased a lot once treated, and also interestingly enough, whilst some reactivity to dogs lingered, she has improved a lot since being recently diagnosed and treated for tendonitis in her shoulder. Her symptoms for that were pretty intermittant and not major, but from the reactivity issue, I guess she was sorer than she let on and it was affecting her behaviourally as well as physically. |
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| Patlucky | 22 Sep 2013, 05:18 PM Post #12 |
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Would like to stay in bed like the other Pat does
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I have read all the posts here . I myself had a dog once that attacked vacuum and mower. Even once took my broom and broke a the stereo plinth. She never barked at them , but in her case was high drive and play. I just wonder has this dog been done.? I will say is if you show you are scared a dog has won. One step back from a dog , gives a dog that too. Your friend being in tears, I think shows the dog just that. All my GSDs have been dominant however I have never had a male dog. Hope your friend finds the help she need . Good luck I am sure it will get sorted. At least your friend is asking for help, and not giving up.
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| emma30 | 23 Sep 2013, 07:59 PM Post #13 |
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Cassie and Keeleys Mum
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She had him since pup, and he has been done. Actually has got worse since the op. He is under the vet anyway as he suffers from a very sensitive tummy-even raw was causing problems. So I will get her to mention the hypothyroidism and blood tests. She is going to contact some people from the sites Pangolin linked to. Thank you again for the responses. Edited to add ..he's always been a 'bugger' , but as he is getting bigger he is getting worse. Edited by emma30, 23 Sep 2013, 08:05 PM.
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| pangolin | 23 Sep 2013, 08:14 PM Post #14 |
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Testosterone can play a bit part in fear-related behaviour, in regards to giving a dog a bit more confidence. Neutering is something to consider carefully with a fearful dog as it can often make the dog worse. Definately sounds like his behaviour could be fear-related if he's worsened since being neutered. |
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